Haskell Foundation Technical Task Force (Slot 2) - Meeting Minutes
March 24, 2021
Attendees
Ben Gamari
Theophile Choutri
Chris Dornan
Emily Pillmore
Michael Snoyman
Moritz Angermann
Previous Meeting Minutes:
General
Emily: Proposal process in flight, we’ll have it in the github.
Vector Types Proposal
Ben: There is a doodle that went out for a meeting. We’ll have it resolved by 2-3pm EST today. Working on making this actionable.
See:
Action Items:
Kick-off meeting
GHC Performance Dashboard Proposal
Ben: Meeting with Davean + Moritz today to sort out concretely what our thoughts are. Building heavily on GHC’s existing dashboard support.
Ben: I will finish the proposal. It would be good if the leader were not me. I’d prefer it if it were not me.
Emily: We’ll need to find a leader. Pipe to a different meeting.
Ben: The front end bit I am not qualified for. Should we ask Obsidian?
See:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eU4x37m36IspCpNWIz6RjPNreuiTts7dKEWkvUcknrM/edit
Action Items:
Meeting today (3/24) for this to kick it off.
Text-Utf8 Proposal
Emily: Awaiting meeting with maintainers. Preliminary benchmarks showed significant slow down.
Michael: I wouldn’t trust those benchmarks. They probably only bench whether Utf16 is fast.
Ben: It’s all very related to the Vector Types proposal. Fusion is just not sustainable.
Chris: It just keeps breaking and is not sustainable.
Michael: Conduit did this, but we gave up because it keeps breaking.
Chris: Meta-point - we have two separate tracks. Each project should look at what it’s trying to do, but let’s not get into a war about the roadmaps for each.
Ben: How do we avoid duplicate work?
Hecate: Yes, there will be loss in code, but there will be a gain in maturity. We are not doomed by VTP on this.
Michael: Z-haskell and Foundation are proofs of concept that this works. Maybe we just can just use one of those?
Emily: I’m fine with adopting one of those instead.
Michael: Standardize on a vector type, maybe we deprecate text right now? Let’s reach out to these existing people and figure out the right direction is going forward. Massiv + Z-Haskell.
See:
TODO: No proposal yet (still in debate phase with maintainers)
Action Items:
Meet with Dong + Alexey to discuss this.
Haskell Foundation Book Proposal
See:
Action Items:
Nothing todo yet. Consider it a thunk.
GHC CI Proposal
Ben: Spoke to Andrew about this.
Emily: Andrew gave positive news regarding the resources we asked for. It should be go, but indeterminate time frame. Can we do anything to capture individual contributions? Is this advertised? A way of donating.
Ben: Yes, we’ll add language advertising this.
See:
TODO
Action Items:
Write a “how will this help GHC?” document.
Windows Platform Proposal
Emily: Nothing to do here yet but meet with Emily, Michael, Ben, and Tamar.
Action Items:
Set up the meeting.
Operation Project Matchmaker
Hecate: I am starting a new job, so this will live as a separate project for now.
See:
Project description
Action Items:
None.